A universe that is more powerful than the multiverse. All of the sudden Deku gets a power up and You Say Run starts playing. Outside of TOAA, this is the only time and the only being with the right power to top PR Beyonder, imo. R5: Dr. 9 years ago. Without the Pre-Retcon clause, Beyonder is ridiculously hosed, being outclassed by a Cosmic Cube. Next panel PR Beyonder moonwalks onto the scene. 9 years ago. No. Yeah, but PR Beyonder had LT shaking in his wee booties. Follow 8649. Dr Manhattan is a very proficient matter-energy manipulator. Forum Posts. Current Beyonder is below the Living Tribunal however. He is another universe, pre-big bang. Pre-retcon versions of Beyonder and MM. PR Beyonder was the most powerful entity sans TOAA in the marvel multiverse for a time, he was pretty much able to do whatever the hell he wanted, telling The Living Tribunal to fuck off included. Ruphas have Higher dimensional manip. However Lucifer ig is the same. TR was created by this. 11 years ago. Fulcrum. PR Beyonder's power was likened to an ocean while the Marvel Universe was said to be a drop of water in comparison. " @Pr_Beyonder: LT could very well beat Lucifer. Goku vs Pre Recton Beyonder. Beyonder is supose to represent the power the writers themselves have over the comics. Forum Posts. "@Pr_Beyonder: michael created the but lucifer gave it form, basically its like michael has the universe creating energy but lucifer can manipulate that energy into things,. Bleach should lose in nearly everything. No chance of being omnipotent. It's pretty much PR Beyonder , LT & HOTU Thanos vs Lucifer Morningstar, Michael Demiurgos, full power Spectre, WF Mxy & COIE Anti Monitor , with a small assist from the rest of their teams . I don't know a. g2_ Follow 14321. PR Beyonder was above all beings in marvel. I know that Krona vs LT already exists but i havn't seen one where krona has all the items and i think it would be interresting to see them battleTakPR Beyonder is stronger than all Marvel universe and its beings combined by far. 4 years ago. Also you asked who in Marvel is more powerful than PR Beyonder, so there's no. 7740. To make it a shorter list, Beyonder's presence threatens the whole of the Marvel multiverse, and he sweeps aside the Living Tribunal, Galactus, Doom; everything in it basically. PF wont last 1 minute in the fight. Nothing more needs to be said. 63 results. Victory by permanent death or erasure. He swears he will destroy the multiverse for. Unless its stated Some ware that PR Beyonder is TTOA or has met and defeated (even if its of panel) True LT or Primal Force. The one below all (TOBA). elaine ftw. 02-27-2015, 03:13 AM #3. 13 years ago. @dami24434: cosmology expansion. Lucifer is also technically the most intelligent being in DC besides God. Jul 30, 2018. , but, outside of those and omnipotent characters (like TOAA, The Creator), she beats pretty much anyone. The rest of the rounds Marvel is pretty dominant, maybe they could do something in the final round. •Beyonder is infinitely bigger than the whole multiverse [which has infinite number of universe in it]. green_skaar. Couple of things; 1) It's a bit disingenuous to insinuate that I'm claiming that Flash has no limits. The Beginners Guide To Comics:. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space,. TOAA probably isn't more powerful than suggsverse characters. 3 years ago. Protege and Mad Jim Jaspers are kind of wild cards. If Doom goes at full confidence in. The PR Beyonder isn't from the universe and isn't bound by its limitations. Beyonder escaped. PR Beyonder is a casual multiverse buster. Knowsbleed33 says: "PR Beyonder took out a group of Celestials with ease. The Beyonder: Who Wins In A Fight? By David Harth Published Sep 11, 2020 The Beyonder and Dr. Forums. deactivated-5edd330f57b65. Just wanna point out, nexus beyonder is a thing, the goblin queen merged with beyonder corpse and gained part of his essence. Just no. PR Beyonder by feats and by on-panel dialogue. But Beyonder not only owned the entire MU, he did it casually, and his reality warping makes GEB's powers a non-factor. 5 tons to punch a car. Van_Cere. PR Beyonder had every single abstract and Living Tribunal at his knees. PR Beyonder, even when defeated, knew exactly what was going on and even came back to humiliate Doom and show how irrelevant his plan was. And how do we know PR Beyonder could blink LT out of existence, he could blink lady death out of. Best Answer. Round 5, 6, 7 and 8: same as rounds 1, 2, 3 and 4 except that Batman is bloodlusted, he is working with Doom and Reed Richards and has 100x preparation time. Morals off. PR Beyonder was implied to be another TOAA from a different multi/macroverse. While Manhattan is a multiversal entity tribunal is. living tribunal could not do a damn thing 12 years ago. @eredin12: solar system level is roughly 150 times star level if you use our sun and solar. Well, uh. PR Beyonder is literally beyond the abilities of all things within the Marvel-verse combined. PR-Beyonder was broken, but still not TOAA. PR Beyonder>PR MM>LT. Wiki Points. 3 years ago. 7. Bleach should lose in nearly everything. Pre-retcon beyonder 1 on 1. Even if we insanely highball Spectre to be equal to the Living Tribunal (which, as powerful as he is, he clearly is not), this still puts the Beyonder above Spectre, who’s above Mxy. Forums. Location. Retconned/Modern Beyonder < Ivory Kings. British_Tea_Company • 7 yr. Follow 10594. You can't claim the same about Asura's. Comic Writters>Comic characters, the PR beyonder was stated to be the representation of the writters in the comic in that they could do they anything and that they were beyond anything in the comic thus the name "The Beyonder". Share. They might ruffle his soul-glo hair though, which wouldn't end well for them. #1 KalKent1297. 0. PR Beyonder was millions of times powerful than the entire Marvel Multiverse. User Lists: 3 #20 g2_ Beyonder curb stomps. After his creator, Jim Shooter left Marvel, writer-editor Tom DeFalco, displeased with. 0. The heavy hitters for team marvel are PR beyonder, PR molecule man, post-secret wars III molecule man, living tribunal, multiversal eternity, multiversal death. Dr. PR beyonder can call upon the other beyonders as well to help if he needs it. #1 Edited By gokupwnzalllol. As for Wanda feats she reformed the multiverse (not omniverse, just the way it was used here) and ALSO stopped/controlled/dispersed. His weakness is a lack of understanding of. Especially considering the only other times to my knowledge I’ve seen PR Beyonder has “struggled” in a fight was when he clashed with Molecule Man and when he admitted Classic Doctor Strange could have incapacitate him indefinitely. PR Beyonder face tanked an attack that could destroy a billion dimensions. This topic is locked from further discussion. It was obvious there that the Pre-Retcon Beyonder would absolutely ra-pe a 100% Galactus. 0. The Beginners Guide To Comics: Come Join The Discord: Beyonder was somehow tricked by dr doom and lost his power which is dumb tbh. She/Her. I’m goin wit Batman. This isn't a battle,Its an execution. 1344. Follow 334. ago. None of them have ever specifically resisted speed force speed stealing. Silver Age Superman doesn't have universe+ feats which the Cosmic Cube Beyonder had and PR Beyonder was beyond multiverse+ level. deactivated-5d755a684b00b. PR Beyonder may have slightly better feats than Lucifer, he's not nearly as crafty. So as we know, Phoenix Force is an extremely powerful entity in Marvel. lizyatearita. And PR Beyonder isn't omnipotent either and TR is in a completely separate cosmology created by Grant Morrison with an over monitor and his monitors as angels by Grant. Pre-ret Beyonder was not god, and he was not TOAA. #44 Edited By Debunker020202. Thus he is more more powerful than Fulcrum who may or may not be. The art work and what not is horrible. Alien X (Ben 10) vs pre retcon Beyonder. Beyonder in a curbstomp. It has been shown that in Guardians of The Galaxy (1990) #49-50 that The Living Tribunal has judgement over the Beyonder, the same Beyonder people consider to be the PR Beyonder (PR = Pre-Retconned) which iirc takes place around the same time in Fantastic Four (1961) #319 or at the very least has similar continuity. Lucifer Morningstar vs The Beyonders. By no means is he actually more powerful than the Living Tribunal, PR-Beyonder, etc. PR Beyonder learns about his future self in Marvel (being a jobber) and is pissed off. TOAA is above all. Not only that, but the mirrors contained nothing more than aborted universes. Dr Manhattan Vs The Beyonder. RULES:Morals off. Random encounter. -5. Yes: PR beyonder, PR molecule man, toaa, toba, toba. User Lists: 0 #6 Edited By Crom-Cruach. 0. Even if Thanos had 100 years prep and had the IG, PR Beyonder erases him from existence with his hand. This group is a joke compared to Celestials. PR-Beyonder easily, He was (literally) the multiverse outside of marvel, the beyond realm, everything was him and he was everything basically. 6 years ago deactivated. See moreJoin this channel to get access to perks:…PR Beyonder was millions of times powerful than the entire Marvel Multiverse. Hard to call in terms of power. Flagged (sorry!) 11 years ago. He was not aware of other Beyonders and misinterpreted his personal universe as everything in existence. MM has the powers of the Beyonders, the Beyonders were still linear beings constrained and restricted by time, they were able to be killed by overwhelming power like Starbrand,. No. He is another universe, pre-big bang. 2 years ago. Marvel (and DC for that matter) didn’t have anythin beyond Multiverses back then in their cosmology. Kami Tenchi by many (not me though) is considered a Multiversal God. #1 quandaledingle. unicron didnt live threw the big bang he slept threw the omniversarall big bang beyonder took over the multiver/omniverse,unicron ate it/absubed it. Casually Oneshotting all of dc is beyond anything pr beyonder or any beyonders have ever done. vs. Further to that; Odin, Galactus and, especially Beyonder, are all. Forum Posts. Kryptonian (Superman) 2. I'm using universe very loosely here; we're probably on the scale of. Reviews: 1. PR Beyonder solo with utter ease. Start off twenty feet away. 3rd. Follow 75. deactivated-5e0e83bb0dbb5. I think Beyonder wins based on feats. Whats the Greater Force of Power? COSMIC? or MAGIC? you be the Judge. Round 4 same as round 3 the retcon happened for a reason. Beyonder saying he's omnipotent or gaining back his powers doesn't confirm his omnipotence. Pre Retcon Beyonder has been nearly killed before by lesser being and has been outsmarted more than once by people so far below his power level. PR Beyonder was TOAA in the beyond realm. The BeyondersVS. He was a way wanked character. Pre-retcon Molecule Man hasn't paid his taxes in like, 10 years, since he's been been galavanting around the universe. The Ivory Kings are still not at PRB's level, and shouldn't be regarded as his equals, let alone his superiors. vs Arioch vs Dormammu Rules: Round 1:Winner by death, surrender, capture, Random encounter. 13 votes, 12 comments. Beyonder doesn't stand a chance, Beyonder is a little germ compared to the thought robot, and it would instantly get immune to beyonder reality warping. Follow 7842. Current Beyonder should be very close to PR I'd say, they've established that the current version hasn't been retconned to a Ivory King and his final feat was leaving the Marvel multiverse. PR Beyonder is on par with TOAA but people tend to put him below because TOAA are Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. PR-Beyonder was broken, but still not TOAA. The man with the blue privates exists only b/c the man from beyond allows him to. In the OVA Z made it clear him and masaki were experiments. FinalStar86. PR Beyonder is stronger than all Marvel universe and its beings combined by far. Friend showed me a comic on this guy about a year ago,told me it was a very popular fan- fic,I was orginally going to make this my first thread but IPre Retcon Beyonder. PR Beyonder is more powerful than Marvels TOAA(who was defeated by Thanos with an Astral Regulator). And matched Mxy at one point. 0. @Pr_Beyonder said: " @Sexy Merc said: " @Pr_Beyonder: I'm a huge ass Wally fanboy myself. The Beyonder First Appeared In 'Secret Wars'. She would stalemate the strongest nigh-omnipotents like PR Beyonder, EDG, etc. He was stated to be millions of times powerful than the Entire Marvel Multiverse Combined which even included The Living Tribunal and Molecule Man and We all know that Living Tribunal is almost as Powerful As Michael Demiurgos. Win by death, KO, incap. 0. #1 Edited By gokupwnzalllol. Lord Urizen. Retconned/Modern Beyonder < Ivory Kings. Dr Manhattan has the power to control matter as well as subatomic perception and control. He is bigger than the multiverse, which is infinite in size. You can say PR Byonder is more powerful then LT (M), Phoenix Force…hell even Phoenix of the White Crown would probably not be a match…But Those 3 have never met each other, and have bin ranked 2nd only to TTOA. One on one, most people would say that PR. So just assume that this the PR version of the Beyond realm. PR Beyonder was stated clearly to be omnipotent in almost every issue of Secret Wars 1 & 2, so you can't deny. Doom. The Crimson King. Originally posted by Air Legend Beyonder in a curbstomp. KingOfAsh. Battle takes place in an infinite omniverse. This is hard to tell. No, they can't adapt to. Composite Batman includes the Darkest Knight and he’s broken as fuck. 14 years ago Lance. Phoenix is on par with those guys. There are 5 magics, and one of the 5 magicians killed the original vampire moon god. Round 1: CAS vs. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder and Thanos with the Regulator both duo together to obliterate all of the other nigh-omnipotent beings in this thread. #12 Edited By Pr_Beyonder @Crom-Cruach: Don't forget the regenerator G1 cell that allows Godzilla to regrow any amount of damage as long as he has regenerator cell present in his body,allowing him. Adding God Doom is just too much. 8 years ago. Post-Retcon Beyonder, Pre-Retcon Molecule Man and Unbound Spectre. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking…Marvel has only hype, pr beyonder is the only char to be so hyped he is seen as the strongest. He's nowhere near the same ballpark as PR Beyonder. vs. Forum Posts. Have not seen any impressive feats by the Angel duo. Marvel TeamPR Beyonder & PR Molecule Man & Oblivion & Beyonders (entire Race) & Thanos & Galactus (composite) & Abstract Ent PR Beyonder:Loved the feeling of not being omnipotent and deciced I'll spare yall. Marth Kent rolls up a newspaper and hits him makes him do. Forum Posts. Bonus Round: Pre-Retcon Molecule Man should also stomp IG Thanos. 1. Created by writer Jim Shooter and artist Mike Zeck, the Beyonder first appeared in Secret Wars #1 (May 1984) as an unseen, nigh-omnipotent being from outside the multiverse who kidnapped the heroes and villains of the Marvel. also i've read that suggsverse is basically a troll comic. Pr beyonder blinks away a nigh omni that treat beings that treat beings that treat beings that are multiversal++ level like an outright folder right? She basically controls the plot of her verse. 13 years ago. Forum Posts. (Cuz there are none. It's more like PR Molecule Man was in a unique situation to fight Beyonder because Molecule Man's powers were derrived from PR Beyonder's Dimension. Oh wait that would mean auto win to Marvel. Manhattan has never shown any feats to even suggest him being at Beyonder's level. The character plays a more antagonistic role in the 1985 sequel, Secret Wars II, in which he takes human form to learn about desire but threatens to destroy the multiverse out of increasing frustration. The Presence. Many People are Underestimating Pre Retcon Beyonder in The Comments but they are forgetting some thing. #1. Omnipotence and omniscience. Composite Spidey is powerful but gets pushed aside first I’d say, even wit the powers of the Beyonder race. A character debated as though his guns can kill the beyonder, one of the few characters people consider to be able to take on the beyonder or hurt the beyonder. 1 Winner: The Beyonder. 5. 8 years ago. So. Even if Thanos had 100 years prep and had the IG, PR Beyonder erases him from existence with his hand. PR Beyonder. Likewise, nothing in Toaru would even constitute a threat to the lowliest monsters in the Scarlet King's army. The beyond realm was also so large in size it made the marvel multiverse look like a droplet of water while the beyond realm was the ocean. 6th. Could not. PR Beyonder and it’s not a fight. All are child's play compared to what Bugs could do. Gen. Protege wouldn't have been able to copy Beyonder's powers unless he allowed it. Forums. Victory by permanent death or erasure. ago. Even The. It would also destroy the. #12 Edited By Montaq. Beyonder would just make remake everything that was destroyed. Copy. Round 1: No prep time. Unkindness Raven vs PR Beyonder TheDevil98. buster wise, and low level reality warper, that stuffPR Beyonder feats, Chuck Norris facts, Woody Wood Pecker whatevers. He couldn't erase Death. EDIT: About Beyonder being gullible and "getting his power's stolen". Poll Current Lucifer Morningstar vs. R3: Pre-Crisis Superman. PR Beyonder is just as much close to some of TOAA's powers as HOTU Thanos is. PR Beyonder is on par with TOAA but people tend to put him below because TOAA are Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. Even someone with 0 knowledge of PR Beyonder could look through that or just google and realize this is unholy in terms of the level of stomp. PR Beyonder existed before all things in existence he was. " @Pr_Beyonder: LT could very well beat Lucifer. . He. The guy could probably trick PR Beyonder into. Beyonder was the one above all before TOAAPre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. Doom with Beyonder's powers was afraid to use even half of it, as he worried it would destroy the universe. Report Save. He is talking about TOAA, not PR Beyonder. RULES:Morals off. There are some moments where Beyonder was oddly weak during Secret Wars 2, but his consistent portrayal was ridiculous. " @Pr_Beyonder said: " @Decoy Elite: Hey,Disco suits were B. TOAA; Presence; Great Evil Beast; Living Tribunal; Scathan; Protégé; PR-Beyonder; PR-Molecule Man; Lucifer Morningstar; Michael Demiurgos. agreed the PR beyonder was kind of like a super amped version of the loeb force 13 years ago. So LT + Abstracts + Ultimate Nullifier + other beings of the whole multi-verse other than Molecule. PR Beyonder is a casual multiverse buster. PR Beyonder. m limits were never exposed. Beyonder was either just omnipotent or the closest to it that anyone has gotten without being it. "TOAA & The Presence play the same respective roles in DC and Marvel. Everything that could have shown up to stop PR beyonder did, and all of them failed. 9 years ago. Since this is PR Beyonder he might win, but the whole point of The Endless is that the three most powerful ones are way up there, and all of them combined have the same power level as the Presence. #23 Edited By MrDirector786. That would make LT like a germ/bug in comparison to PR-Beyonder. I do not believe he was omniscient and that is a big difference. Besides when PR Beyonder and PR Molecular Man fought , we know MM was Beyonder's only friend. Posts. TR was created by this. His weakness is a lack of understanding of. ForumsMe and a friend have been arguing over this for a long time,so we decided to make our own matches to see which of our favorites wins. ShootingNova. Alot of people seem to have hard time giving HOM Wanda her due. They have been - however, the influence of the Phoenix now extends to the realm of the Beyonders, which is the same realm where the Beyonder from the 80s is from. ago. Beyonder wins this, Lucifer along with his brother Michael are equal to LT, and PR Beyonder is better than LT any day of the week. That feat alone puts him solidly above Lucifer who's best "multiversal" feat was destroying the mirrors, which he didn't even do by himself. No. Since his feats and stuff have. 0. doomsday49. He changed the match from ssj2 Goku vs Jin Mori to Sai vs Beyonder lol. Pre Retcon Beyonder is more a match for things like SCP 239. Living Tribunal was also onlu second to TOAA much like Michael and Lucifer are second only to Presence. Pr beyonder blinks away a nigh omni that treat beings that treat beings that treat beings that are multiversal++ level like an outright folder right? She basically controls the plot of her verse. Forum Posts. Actually PR Beyonder was TOAA of his own actuality (according to Stan Lee), the purpose of his original existence was to. The One Above All. The Beyonder (/ b i ˈ ɒ n d ər /) is a fictional cosmic entity appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. PR Beyonder stomps this team. And PR Beyonder isn't omnipotent either and TR is in a completely separate cosmology created by Grant Morrison with an over monitor and his monitors as angels by Grant. The Beyonder is a young member of the ancient race of multiversal engineers known as The Beyonders, and by far its most infamous and well-known one. @majestic99. Perfect teamwork. LT's powers/status was never set, hence the whole retcon deal. #41 cdavis6149. Even PR Beyonder is just an infinite dimensional reality warper, and the Archetypes whom are significantly weaker than the Outer Gods control infinite dimensional multiverses and beings like chess. Outside of TOAA, this is the only time and the only being with the right power to top PR Beyonder, imo. The Overvoid could be the Beyond-Realm before PR Molecule Man created a pinpoint in the Beyond-Realm to the Earth-616 universe. m outperformed beyonder,, And in Alan Moore’s watchmen, dr. This is the battle of the greatest Feat :)483K subscribers in the whowouldwin community. Karkus. And by feats Beyonder would totally curbstomp Glory. . And the LT he beat was undefined. Weakest character that would beat him for a majority is PR Beyonder. Pre-retcon beyonder 1 on 1. Follow 334. deactivated-5ee15da0e0aad.